DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROMANCE
There are usually three types of romance scammer:
Is it a
Vlad or Lad or Pinay? Part 1 - Vlads.
from the former Soviet Union.
Lads are 419 scammers who also do love scams.
Pinays are from The Phillipines and are usually scam/beggars
Let's start with vlads.
Vlads are scammers from the Former Soviet Union (FSU for short), and have some
easy to spot signs. They're not 100% guaranteed, but a very good indicator.
Does the email address end in a number? Sometimes this can be telling. Vlads
often use something like olga777@, while a lad will use jon4you@ or smithjames@
at the start of their email address, but sometimes will also use the number at
the end. The best way to check, is the ip address used.
Look at the IP
address the email came from. There are places that pop up time and again as
being hotbeds of scammer activity. Mari-el for example. Also look for spoofed
headers. Look for ones that show up as places like the USA or UK when they've
said they live in Cheboksary, Russia.
The Bat!, Becky!, Voyager! mPOP or a
similar x-mailer in the headers. These programs allow multiple accounts to be
run at the same time off a single program. It's ideal for a tech savvy scammer
The phrases they use. Here's an example
I cannot describe to you myself at once. I very simple person!
And I to
speak all which I feel also, I do not hide anything from people. Unfortunately,
I have no any person whom I could love. I want to find suitable
person for a life, also can be good the friend. I would like to care about
The person and to love it. I very simple person and I to not aspire to
But I to aspire to the best conditions lives, actually, for this
purpose it is necessary To live. I so think
The script they use has
been run through translation software, and it leaves some very obvious phrases.
"I very simple person" or "I the very simple person" for example. With practice
you'll learn these and spot them easily. Google odd sounding phrases and see
what turns up. Have a go with "i the decent and sociable girl"
emails, and sending out generic, scripted emails in reply. Ask them a question
and watch it get ignored. Get thanked for a photo you never sent. Send them
their own emails back and STILL get replies. It's pretty obvious the first lot
of emails you're sending aren't being read.
Falling in love with you within
3 or 4 emails. Realistically, is that ever going to happen?
If the headers
show Ukraine and the pictures look like a softcore porn model, then expect an
email telling you that to continue talking to the girl you need to pay a
translation company a fee for them to translate the emails between you and her.
That's your typical Ukraine translation fee scam.
Pictures taken "just for
you" that the EXIF data shows are old, maybe even years old.
If they phone
you up, do they sound like they're reading from a script, or that there's no
real passion in their voice? That's because the scammers pay girls a tiny amount
to make phone calls or take photos. They sound like they're reading a script
because that's exactly what they are doing. 95% of Russian romance scams are
done by males, and the women in the photos are either innocent victims who've
had their photos stolen or a girl paid to make personalised pictures. Don't let
a pair of long legs distract you from what the person behind the words is trying
Is it a
Vlad or Lad or Pinay? Part 2 - Lads
Here's a typical lad
am,ligth in complx,brown eye,5 ft, am, so
humble,respectful,calm,cool headed,good looking,loving,caring,and so many good
all.i like to play basket ball,i like to dance,clubbin,reading,smiles,and share
See the bad spelling, poor use of punctuation, starting a
sentence with "am" instead of "I am". Other phrases that pop up are "Am John by
name" or I was the only child of my parents". Again, in time you'll learn to
spot these easily. Lads also have a poor concept of past and present tenses,
often adding an "s" or "ed" to the end of words inappropriately.
are often stolen from modelling sites, porn sites or even real profiles on
dating sites. Does the photo match what they claim about themselves?
they'll be "currently in (insert place here), but about to go to West Africa for
business/charity work/a modelling assignment. This is to explain away why you'll
need to send money to them in Nigeria further down the line.
Overuse of the
<BUZZ> feature in IM chats. They say hello, and instantly <BUZZ>
Claiming to be an engineer/studying a degree, especially if coupled
with very poor writing skills.
An email address ending with something like
2cool, 4luv, 4u, 2006, 001 is often seen with lads.
A name like Smith David
or Davids Thomas, where the last name and first name are mixed up.
all signs to look for to identify your scammer as a lad.
Is it a Vlad or Lad or Pinay? Part 3 -Pinay
These are easy as they tell you where they're from and also
appear on webcam so you can see they're really who they say they are. The only
real complication is determining if it's a scammer, beggar or a cam girl.
The following is quoted from another scambaiter.
"They kind of cross
lines between begging, scamming...and sometimes porn cam girl.
to be careful to provide evidence she's lying.
It's not really scamming to
That is the problem with the pinay scam/cam/beggars.
catch her in lies about what she needs money for....'I need money for nursing
school', 'I need money for my mother's operation'
(but she said she
was in school to be a teacher, and her mom died.....in another chat...get the
If she's begging for money, or strong hints....it's not really a
If she LIES about the reasons needing the money....
needs an operation!!" (he was dead last chat)
you can go all out.....
Strangely, 'begging' on chat seems to be a part time job a lot of people in
the phils have. I've seen mom and daughter teams, aunt and niece, etc.
Sometimes you'll see an adult barely off cam coaching the younger